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Veera anatomy study by Riyami Veera anatomy study by Riyami
I've wanted to do one of these things for a while. Back in life drawing classes, we were supposed to do something like this but never did. :T

It's like she's had all her skin and stuff peeled off... :iconwhutplz: kinda creepy...

This was a bit of a challenge because of all the non human bits. I know there's a lot of inconsistencies but I liked how it turned out anyway. I swear I didn't mean to make her look like a zerg.

- Skin is thick and opaque, and has the same kind of texture as shark/stingray skin.
- 'hair' is more of a fleshy consistency than fine hair. (think natural dreadlocks)
-K'takzyl are Omnivores, but Primary source (and preference) of diet is Meat.

- K'takzyl are non-mammalian so sorry, no mammal sacs guys.
- Muscles are denser than humans, making them slightly stronger/ more durable.
- Has a layer of dense sub-dermal plating to protect the neck/underside/back/tendril.
- Muscles are more of a purple-ish color due to blood coloration (I'm on the fence with this, either with red blood or a more violet color)

- Tendril is pure muscle, making it a very strong 'limb'. It is prehensile, but unable to do fine manipulation.
-Neck muscles are particularly strong, and several large back muscles extend up into the tendril to disperse weight into the back and shoulders.

- Bones are again, slightly denser than humans to help carry the weight, and withstand the pull of the muscles.
- Not sure on if the structure in the tendril should be bone or cartilage, or if it should be nothing but pure muscle.
- One pair of ribs has been modified into a secondary clavicle for the smaller arms. But because of the positioning of the bones/muscle, the smaller arms have limited shoulder movement.



-I- think she works, on a biological level. What do you guys think? Any feedback is greatly welcome.
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Jack-Mc-F Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
have you made any pictures for males of this species? This is wonderful.
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Riyami Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2015
I haven't made any official references for them, but there are males. They tend to be bigger / bulkier, and have a mace like bulb on the end of their slightly shorter tendrils. Think a mace instead of a whip.
Males also have tusk like teeth on their lower jaws. I had the idea that primitive K'takzyl had segmented lower jaws for fighting / hunting, but since civilization the jaws eventually fused from non-use.
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Jack-Mc-F Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
That's killer! Love to see that one day. 
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PiuPiu-Littlebird Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Student Digital Artist

I read some of the previous comments. If people are worried that her head might be too heavy for her neck, maybe you can say that the bones in her tendril are hollow like birds's, to help lighten the head?

 

Superb design btw :clap:

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Riyami Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2013
I settled on the tendril being supported by cartilage instead of bone, but there are a few other concepts I think could explain it too. Tendon strength, the actual neck muscles extend down to her back to anchor most of the weight on her shoulders instead her neck, things like that.
In the end I'm not terribly worried about making it 100% Real life realistic, but just believable.
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PiuPiu-Littlebird Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2013  Student Digital Artist

Alright :) it does make more sense Nod 

Again, really cool concept :clap:

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quiklain Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014
the long muscles extending down the back would i think limit mobility of her neck. can't turn it as much as would otherwise
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Ryuseimaru Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012
Hmmm.... now that I've seen what she's made of, I'd say she's preeeetty hard to kill in hand-to-hand... ...-to-hand... ...-to-hand... ...-to-head-tail combat.

Very nice idea in total though... and I'm just thinking out loud here, correct me if I'm wrong.
The dense muscle tissue and bone structure would imply a rather large homeworld with higher gravity than earth.
To support that tendril, shouldn't the neck be at least as thick and strong as the base of the tendril itself? Did her kind develop from a tree-climbing species?
Is her kind reptilian, laying eggs and such?
Also, I'd like to learn more about the social structure of her people/race... and also, even if it sounds strange, their way of reproduction.
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Riyami Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
Heh, I've gotten a lot of people saying that her neck should be 'thicker'. My excuse is that the tendons/muscle from that actually run down into her shoulders which is what bears most of the weight as well as her neck/head. That and I simply like the way she looks now, so I'm hopeful that suspension of disbelief will let people forgive the whole neck-is-too-small thing.

The tendril itself is more of a weapon than a mobility device, though it certainly can be used to aid in that way. (females have a whip-like one, males have a shorter mace-like tendril)
She's a mix of reptile/shark/stingray actually. Haven't thought much about their whole reproduction and stuff though.
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Ryuseimaru Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
Ok, no more "neck-is-too-small" talk then. ;)

I just had an idea: a tree-dwelling thresher shark! :D
The twin opposable thumb anatomy of the extremeties would definitely support that idea...
Since the species seems to lack mammal glands, I'd say a shark-like reproduction seems pretty legit. Their "eggs" are mostly leathery, pillow-shaped pouches with tendrils that wrap around surrounding plants. Maybe that's how her kind reproduces as well?

But here I am, rambling on. DO you eve want to discuss things like that with me?
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Riyami Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012
The neck thing is a valid critique, I just think she'd look awful if I beefed it up again.

Leathery eggs, high gravity and tree climbing (at least in their primitive time) make sense, I guess it just seems a bit awkward since I'd not put much thought into the details yet.
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Ryuseimaru Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012
Ah. So you basically made up the character without giving much thought to her species...

So what! You're not the first to do that, trust me. ;)


If I remember correctly, somewhere you said that her kind are space nomads... How did they become that?

It sure is a pretty long way from tree-dwelling, thresher shark humanoids to space nomads...
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CorrsollaRobot Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
amazing design, I love it!
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Saya-Aria Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2011
I admire your ability to draw skeletons and not make it look like you slapped a bunch of lines together! :D
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SolemnSpear Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2011
IT'S LIKE PYRAMID HEAD CAME TO VISIT VEERA AND WANTED TO -shot-

.. .. Anyways, I would have never figured the tendril was able to move from looking at the initial concept =O. I do not major in anatomy at all, but I do think that the K'takzyl are a very valid species. At least, a LOT more valid than many other alien species that people have created in the past =P

The only thing I've always thought of is how sweaty a K'takzyl might get under their main arm armpits if they do sweat ._. it looks sort of cramped down there XD

One last thing, do you know of any element which could lend to a violet blood color? I know that our own blood gets really red due to the iron in it... I think, but I could just be a freaking noobface
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Riyami Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2011
Thanks for the feedback! I was shooting for a plausible concept, but still kept a few things that would stretch more into sci-fi.

K'takzyl prefer warmer climates, so she probably wouldn't get too sweaty. They are more based on reptiles/sharks/stingrays, so I'm not sure on all the fine details of their biology.

I was thinking of having violet blood originally, I'm not so sure about it now. I found this just by digging a bit on google: [link]

Hope it helps!
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SolemnSpear Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011
Sweet, there's blood that's blue in real life! HUR HUR -cough-

Anyways, you can totally say that the K'takzyl have a hybrid system of Hemoglobin and Hemocyanin. One's red [[hemoglobin]] the other is blue [[Hemocyanin]]. When you put red and blue together, what to do you get? Purple! Mwahahahaha >:D

And really, I don't blame you at all for 'Not being sure on all the fine details of their biology'. There are few things in life as far as original creations go that I say I simply can't do with my current scope of knowledge. Making a completely thorough biological description is something I would not be able to do without extensive study in biology and anatomy XD.

I feel you did a splendid job though with the K'takzyl. ^.^ kehehe.
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Riyami Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2011
I was thinking blue, since blood color influences skin color in most animals, but I read somewhere that Hemocyanin is less efficient than Hemoglobin at transporting oxygen (which is one of the main functions of blood) and I invisioned the K'takzyl as a very advanced and efficent race so that took away that idea.

But then again, this is Science FICTION, that and K'takzyl have thick shark-ish skin, so I think I could get away with a blue-purple blood.
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HuntraG94 Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2011
neat alien antomy.
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Nannairb Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I would say that her muscles don't need to be denser, especially when the headtendril looks like a third of her body weight. The human body is capable of lifting cars; it's just that our bodies won't let us because our tendons are the weak points, not the muscles. She simply needs stronger tendons to be able to use more of the strength available from normal muscle without weighing a tonne. (That much bodymass would be difficult to manage and hard to maintain.)


/endrant
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Riyami Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2011
Ah, I never thought of that. Then again, I didn't do a lot of in depth research. (This was just supposed to be for fun after all) But I can see the logic.

Thanks for the feedback! :)
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Nannairb Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Yus, I just like thinking too hard about things. But if you ask me how Myr (a character of mine I want to draw with Veera because of some similarities) works, I'm just like "idfk." (Though I'll probably be referencing your work here to figure out her second pair of arms better.)

Muscle is heavier than fat, too.

For the tendril, I'd suggest making it cartilege/boneless to take more weight out.

And if you really wanted to get away with superstrength and pseudoscience, you could say she was silicon-based.
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gothmylittlepony Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011
I absolutely adore the design, so unique. When I'm not half asleep, I'll try and leave you a more detailed comment. <3
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Riyami Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2011
Thanks! Hope you have a good rest.
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khiitan Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2011
Hosnap this is awesome. I’m a huge dork for fleshing out how a critter’s muscles and skeleton are set up so this is like crack for the eyes.

The neck looks a tad skinny to be supporting the weight of the tendril. The cervical vertebra are probably thick enough to work but I’m not sure about the muscles. Looking at how thick the human neck is when muscle is added compared to just the spine itself (very), she would need a bit more muscle to support it and still have mobility even when you factor in fact that k’takzyl muscles are denser/stronger/etc. The extra muscles running from the tendril to the back are a neat touch though. You could even take it a bit further and extend the top ridge of the spine on that section of the back. A lot of quadrupeds have one to anchor muscles that help hold up their heads ([link]).

As for the tendril, I always pictured it something like an elephants trunk ([link]) or an octopus tentacle (of which there are no pictures on the internet dangit) in terms of structure so it’s surprising that you’ve put bones in it. I think she probably doesn’t need them, especially since the tendril is going to be heavy enough without them. It’s definitely possible to have a fairly prehensile limb going on thing without heavy bones getting involved. The cartilage is super neat. If anything, you could probably extend a thin layer of it all the way down the tendril on all sides to fully weaponize it.

The feet look cool, though you probably don’t need the heel bone between the back two toes. I also absolutely adore the rib thing. Shoehorning an extra set of limbs onto a rib cage is always a challenge and you’ve pulled it off so well.

I apologize if all of this sounds a bit loony. Seriously, the entire thing is so well referenced and done that those little things are really all I would suggest changes to.
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Riyami Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2011
Not at all! It was a wonderful critique and I greatly appreciate you taking the time to give me such constructive feedback! :heart:

The main conflict with the character it seems is the issue with the head tendril. A part of me does want to make it biologically possible by thickening up the neck, but another part of me wants to keep her aesthetically the same, 'realistic' anatomy be damned. (I wanted to give her a feminine allure, that I feel would be somewhat lost with a bulging neck or hunched back) While I know some people will be all like "Well you're just using it as an excuse because you can't draw it right", but I think I would like to try to extend the suspension of disbelief and keep her neck thickness mostly the same.


And Thank you for the elephant trunk reference and examples! I totally understood what you meant about the trunk and spine ridges. I didn't seem to find any good ones myself, I guess I just wasn't looking in the right places. I couldn't find anything on snake anatomy either other than bones. It made me sad.

Thank you again for the awesome feedback!
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Doodlee-a Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2011  Student Digital Artist
I'm partial to the tendril having cartilage, and this is absolutely awesome! I need to try this with one of my species!
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tamalero Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
her neck muscles really must be strong as steel to handle the weight of her head tail XD
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S31SH0 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2011
pretty interesting, i'm not a biology expert but it seems ok for me :P

well, got two questions for this

1. if she's not a mammal - what exactly is she?

2. may i use that char for an rpg forum (or a few more xD)? :P
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Riyami Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2011
She's something more akin to a reptile/shark/stingray in my opinion. She's an alien.

I would appreciate if you did not use my art or characters for your RPG/fanfic/etc. But thank you for being respectful and asking first.
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S31SH0 Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2011
what a pity, well gonna respect that
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Ravean Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2011
I love all the detail; so beautiful!
Personally I think yeah, she would work on a biological level. My main concern would be the weight of her tentril, but you addressed that with the added musculature. It seems like her little arms would work pretty good as well, although not so much as the larger ones.
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Riyami Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2011
Thanks! The little arms are mainly for fine manipulation, the big arms are for the heavy work, so them not working as well is semi-intentional.
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Ravean Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2011
Ah. Well that makes sense.
She's a very nifty character. : )
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JamesCGamora Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2011
If the Tendril is pure muscle, why be there a bone segments in it a la backbone / spinal column?
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Riyami Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2011
I put it in there to see how it would look. I haven't decided if there is internal structure like bone or cartridge, or if it should just be muscle.
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